CHAT TRANSCRIPT FOR WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 10, 2014

Epad Mac:08:32 MUSIC
Epad Mac:08:45 3mcard: Dewayne
Epad Mac:08:49 Report back from last nights breakout
Jon Lebkowsky:08:50 Buy a BRCK!http://shop.brck.com/brcks/brck-v1.html
Doc Searls:09:17 The stock market is a casino in which the largest and fastest bettors run the house.
Epad Mac:09:24 Report on identifying "the best network"
Harold F.:09:25 I disagree that can only work with people who will meet me halfway. But requires different sets of rules.
Harold F.:09:25 I spend a lot of time meeting with people who do not see me as a peer.
Jon Lebkowsky:09:26 Boy, me too.
Jon Lebkowsky:09:27 This thing about generational lines is weird to me.
Harold F.:09:28 I have lived with it all my life.
Jon Lebkowsky:09:28 I suppose it is important to acknowledge differences in generational context.
Harold F.:09:29 Change has occurred so rapidly that generational lines of division are as vast as growing up in different country.
Doc Searls:09:29 When my father (born in 1908) had wolves as pets when he lived in Nowhere, Alaska. He said wolves were like every other dog, except in one respect: when you call them, they come half way. You come the other half.
Jon Lebkowsky:09:30 I don't feel the difference as much, myself, but for whatever reason I spend a lot of time with members of a different generation and little time with members of my own.
Harold F.:09:30 Doc. +1
Jon Lebkowsky:09:30 Doc +1
Doc Searls:09:30 The generational "divide" seems false to me. I've been young for a long time.
ella:09:30 bullshit.
Harold F.:09:31 Jon, Doc, the exception is not the rule.
Jon Lebkowsky:09:31 ?
Christopher Mitchell:09:31 I cannot identify whether Harold, Doc, Elliott and others are part of what generation
Christopher Mitchell:09:31 not where where I am either
ella:09:31 if the divide wasn"t real, we would not be having this conversation.
Harold F.:09:31 Also, we cannot easily understand our own weaknesses.
Doc Searls:09:31 Sometimes we have too many rules. Or useless ones. Our eyes can be blinders for our ears.
Jon Lebkowsky:09:32 Doc didn't say the divide isn't real. He said it seems false to him. I think that's a distincition.
Harold F.:09:32 What was considered "normal" v. "tolerant" v. "fringe" when I grew up radically different from expectation today.
ella:09:32 I'd love to see bighook run on a progressive stack for real.
Harold F.:09:36 Ella, it would be useful to define "Stack" for us newcommers.
Doc Searls:09:37 As an average white guy in the first world, I never experienced prejudice until I looked old. It's not a big thing, but it is an interesting one.
Epad Mac:09:37 What was learned in the room last night?
Doc Searls:09:38 +1 on Aaron.
ella:09:39 @Harold: yes, definitely. that's one of many things in the book Brewster mentioned.
ella:09:40 (basically, explicit tracking of speaking order, with deference given to folks in the room who are less likely to have a voice)
Jon Lebkowsky:09:46 What was the name of the book?
ella:09:49 David Graeber's The Democracy Project
ella:09:49www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/081299356X
Doc Searls:09:49 Thought: we speak of the Internet as a monolith ("lith" btw meaning "stone"). What makes it one thing is the independence of its countless ends. It is the table to which we all bring our distinctive selves.
Jon Lebkowsky:09:51 Yes, and unfortunately we increasingly think of the Internet as Facebook and Netflix. (Well, not we, but many.)
Jon Lebkowsky:09:51 Ella: thanks for the link.
Doc Searls:09:51 "a manipulated arm of influence" - good
Doc Searls:09:52http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/constitution/article-v.html
Jon Lebkowsky:09:56 I've been instigating some work drawing on this project. Ella was also involved. It's worth looking at:http://www.iftf.org/govfutures/
Jon Lebkowsky:09:57 "The mission of the Governance Futures Lab is to reimagine and experiment with the basic architectures and processes of governance. We believe it is necessary to experiment with new systems and new rules to govern life on our planet. We have powerful tools to connect, organize and coordinate human behavior. We also have unprecedented amounts of knowledge about how the world works and humanity’s role in its own future."
Epad Mac:10:07 MUSIC
Epad Mac:10:30 BACK IN SESSION
Epad Mac:10:40 Elliot 3m Card
ella:10:50 This all happened when Schmidt took over.
Jon Lebkowsky:10:57 You can have a different ("socially responsible") agreement with your shareholders.
Epad Mac:11:07 Brough 3mcard
Epad Mac:11:11 Art G 3m card
enoss:11:12 anyone have a link to the thing he is talking about?
enoss:11:13 is it this?http://www.mydemoulas.net/
Epad Mac:11:13 also nytimes --http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/19/us/across-a-grocery-chain-a-labor-protest-in-support-of-a-manager.html?_r=0
Andrew:11:13http://www.boston.com/business/news/2014/08/27/demoulas-sides-reach-deal/YHVqrKp65XS3DBzJd2PulI/story.htmlhttp://www.boston.com/business/news/2014/08/27/demoulas-sides-reach-deal/YHVqrKp65XS3DBzJd2PulI/story.html
ella:11:13http://wearemarketbasket.com
ella:11:14 that's the site of the folks running the protest.
enoss:11:14 @andrew that link was broken. here it ishttp://www.boston.com/business/news/2014/08/27/demoulas-sides-reach-deal/YHVqrKp65XS3DBzJd2PulI/story.html
db:11:15 Dissent magazine's latest Belabored podcast has a great discussion about it
enoss:11:24 git tips is kind of ungoogleable
enoss:11:24http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-business/10702952/Sexism-in-tech-GitHub-female-engineer-Horvaths-shock-exit-Sexist-nerdy-priesthood-regime-is-killing-tech-industry.html
ella:11:25 gittip.com
enoss:11:31 penetration of bitcoin wallets is a complete answer, but difficult
Andrew:11:32 there's a conservatism in the courts too -- the crowdsuing mechanism would be legally vulnerable in the US
brewster:11:34https://internetcreditunion credit union founded by brewster
Epad Mac:11:37 Challenge to people to make commitments
Jon Lebkowsky:11:50 Brewster: link was broken.https://internetcreditunion.org/
Epad Mac:12:06 MUSIC